Discussion:RECONCILING BOOK / TAX INCOME-1120S

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{{ForumReplyPost|UserID=Wiles|Date=15 October 2009|Text=Sorry, Captain. Too many days at sea and scurvy is setting in. Since when does "BOOK" equate to "GAAP". Book is in the eye of the beholder. In fact today, my client delivered to me a Book method consisting of just 3 accounts: Checking, Opening Balance Equity, Uncategorized Expenses. Such a simplified system is sure to bring about the demise of the hoity-toity oligarchs of FASB.}} {{ForumReplyPost|UserID=Wiles|Date=15 October 2009|Text=Sorry, Captain. Too many days at sea and scurvy is setting in. Since when does "BOOK" equate to "GAAP". Book is in the eye of the beholder. In fact today, my client delivered to me a Book method consisting of just 3 accounts: Checking, Opening Balance Equity, Uncategorized Expenses. Such a simplified system is sure to bring about the demise of the hoity-toity oligarchs of FASB.}}
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Discussion Forum Index --> Advanced Tax Questions --> RECONCILING BOOK / TAX INCOME-1120S
Discussion Forum Index --> Tax Questions --> RECONCILING BOOK / TAX INCOME-1120S

PM1040 (talk|edits) said:

13 October 2009
MY CLIENT RECEIVED A K-1 (#1065) AND I ENTERED THE LOSS OF $(24) ON PAGE 1 LNE 5 OF #1120S...BUT WHERE DO I MAKE THE ENTRY TO BALANCE MY BOOK LOSS WITH TAX RETURN LOSS FOR THE $(24)

I HAVE TRIED TO ENTER $(24) ON SCH M-1 BUT I WILL HAVE TO MANUALLY OVERRIDE THE SOFTWARE (PROSERIES-INTUIT) ....WHERE DO I PUT THE $(24) SO I CAN FINISH THIS TAX RETURN TODAY????

THANKS FOR YOUR HELP

Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

13 October 2009
investment in partnership/LLC (we tax people sometimes call this 'basis')

KathiJud (talk|edits) said:

13 October 2009
Thinking of the balance sheet - shouldn't the $24 loss reduce your Investment in this entity asset account? Do you not normally record this on the corp's books?

If you make this entry and adjust your book P&L for real so there is no M-1 adjustment.

Southparkcpa (talk|edits) said:

13 October 2009
The journal entry on the s corp books (isn't it late?) is as follows:

It follows the "Equity method of accounting"

Credit Invest in partnership (asset account)

Debit loss on Investment (P and L account)

Blrgcpa (talk|edits) said:

13 October 2009
I agree with southpark. There's no need to shout at us.

UTdave1 (talk|edits) said:

14 October 2009
That would be the entry if you followed equity method. It could be that if you have <20% interest and no influence on the entity that you follow cost method as opposed to equity method and have no entry. Then you would have a difference in the investment account for book/tax purposes.

AmirK (talk|edits) said:

14 October 2009
UT, I honestly do not think a corporation with a schedule K-1 showing a massive loss of $24 :) is neceesarily on GAAP basis; do you? The SouthParkCPA response stands.

Southparkcpa (talk|edits) said:

14 October 2009
Your honorable Amirk....

Thank you and I appreciate not being over ruled.

Check your robe, I put the bribe money in your left pocket. (lol)


I got a kick out of your support! Thanks!

Captcook (talk|edits) said:

15 October 2009
The OP did title this thread "RECONCILING BOOK / TAX INCOME-1120S", so it would stand to reason their books are not on a tax basis. GAAP is a reasonable assumption to make. Excellent point raised, UT.

Wiles (talk|edits) said:

15 October 2009
Sorry, Captain. Too many days at sea and scurvy is setting in. Since when does "BOOK" equate to "GAAP". Book is in the eye of the beholder. In fact today, my client delivered to me a Book method consisting of just 3 accounts: Checking, Opening Balance Equity, Uncategorized Expenses. Such a simplified system is sure to bring about the demise of the hoity-toity oligarchs of FASB.

Captcook (talk|edits) said:

15 October 2009
Indeed, "book is in the eye of the beholder." I regularly deal with Cash, Modified Cash, Tax, and "hoity-toity" GAAP and, of course, bastardized versions in between that I get to clean up. However, my point is that in your simplified example you are likely not concerned with a book-tax reconciliation. If the OP is worried about a reconciliation he should probably let us know on what basis his books are prepared. Again, GAAP is a reasonable assumption to make in light of no other information.