Discussion:Deductible funeral expenses on form 706

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 +Assuming state law permits reasonable funeral expenses as a charge against the estate, the personal rep/successor trustee should be prepared to demonstrate the reasonableness and necessity of the luncheon/flowers, etc. Does PR have an itemized bill showing what costs were incurred in the luncheon? Was the luncheon immediately after the funeral w/ the same guests attending both events? Was the luncheon held in the same complex as the funeral? What events if any transpired at the luncheon (e.g., did anyone give speeches there remembering the deceased?). I believe the main thrust of Davenport was that the court needed evidence to assess reasonableness. JMHO
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Theresa d (talk|edits) said:

15 October 2007
I'm preparing a estate tax return form 706. the family of the deceased held a luncheon after the funeral. Is this a deductible expense? What about the flowers purchased for the wake? i'm thinking it is not deductible but just want to check. thanks.

Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

15 October 2007
were these required by his will or trust?

Theresa d (talk|edits) said:

15 October 2007
no. Trust agreement specifies that trustee has the power to pay all expenses of the trust. the trust agreement doesn't specify what constitutes funeral expenses.

Bengoshi (talk|edits) said:

15 October 2007
An interesting case to consider:

http://www.ustaxcourt.gov/InOpHistoric/Davenport.TCM.WPD.pdf

Assuming state law permits reasonable funeral expenses as a charge against the estate, the personal rep/successor trustee should be prepared to demonstrate the reasonableness and necessity of the luncheon/flowers, etc. Does PR have an itemized bill showing what costs were incurred in the luncheon? Was the luncheon immediately after the funeral w/ the same guests attending both events? Was the luncheon held in the same complex as the funeral? What events if any transpired at the luncheon (e.g., did anyone give speeches there remembering the deceased?). I believe the main thrust of Davenport was that the court needed evidence to assess reasonableness. JMHO