Discussion:LLC sale of interest
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18 January 2007 | |
Hi, Experts! First timer here. Have waded through past forums and this place is a jewel! Here is my first challenge (for me, not for you guys!) Two-man LLC (1065). LLC buys out one of the member's 50% interest. Remaining member is now SMLLC and will continue the business. Both members have equal capital accounts. Purchase agreement states that the LLC is the purchaser of the member's interest (not the other member individually). Office building owned by LLC is retained by the LLC. LLC gave a new 2nd mtg to selling member in the amount of his share of equity in the building, along with cash for his interest aside from the building. The new mortgage given creates a large negative capital account for the remaining member. Ugh! Any way to avoid that? So, LLC does a final 1065 at date of sale. Selling member receives distribution in the amount of cash received for his interest. Each member receives distributions of their capital account balances. New books start day after sale. Remaining member contributes everything back in and just continues. How do I treat the mortgage given (both for the LLC and for the seller)? Is 754 basis adjustment precluded? Have dealt with LLC 1065s but this is my first buyout situation. Could sure use some guidance. |
18 January 2007 | |
An LLC taxed as a partnership that converts to a SMLLC is now a "disregarded entity" unless the remaining member elects another form of taxation.
As a SMLLC disregarded entity, the capital account is immaterial. He files Schedule C (no balance sheet needed). Remaining member's basis in his LLC interest is increased by the mortgage given and the "buyout" cash given to the retiring member. As a practical matter, this basis should be apportioned to the assets of the business or to "goodwill" so that the new member can take depreciation or amortization. |
18 January 2007 | |
Thanks. Agree. However, the books of the LLC must continue as the business is regulated by the state and a minimum capital balance is required for this type of business license. So can I just increase the building's book value by the amount of the new mtg? Somehow that doesnt seem right. Don't I have to do a formal stepup in basis? Also, how to treat the mortgage given to the seller -- does he recognize anything other than interest this year? |
18 January 2007 | |
Isn't this basically a liquidation of a partnerhip where one partner gets a note and the other receives property subject to a liability? As such, doesn't 732(b) transfer the members basis in the llc interests to the assets received. If so, I don't see the basis adjustment. |
18 January 2007 | |
GLMPLLC, if the basis in the retiring member's assets was $2,000, but the FMV (and amount paid by remaining member) was $10,000, what would you do with the other $8,000? |
18 January 2007 | |
I know what we all would like to do, but we can only do what the law allows. That's not to say I'm married to my answer...just that my analysis, as I did it in my head, didn't lead to the same basis step-up. Here's my thinking:
When one member of a two member LLC taxable as a partnership withdraws, the partnership is liquidated for tax purposes (the LLC still exists for state law purposes, but that has no bearing on the tax result). Under 732(b), the basis of property received by a partner in liquidation of that partner's interest is equal to the partner's adjusted basis in the interest reduced by any money distributed. In your example above, if cash was distributed, the retiring partner has an $8K gain. If it's property, the retiring partner has a $2K transferred basis. However, the original question has to do with the continuing partner, now the sole member of an LLC. I'm sure there are better partnership tax people here then me, but I think the member is treated the same, i.e. the basis in the LLC interest is transferred to the property received. For tax purposes, there are no more events since a single member LLC is a disregarded entity. The only trick here is determining the members tax basis in the LLC interest immediately before the liquidation event. The terms of the two mortgages will determine the allocation of the liabilities between the two partners, and hence there bases, immediately before the liquidating event. This was just my analysis. Feel free to critique. On preview: if your concern is picking up basis for the gain recognized by the exiting member, it seems best done by papering it as a purchase by the continuing member rather than a liquidation by the LLC. |
18 January 2007 | |
OK, let's put a pencil to this.
FMV of assets in 2MLLC 1065 is $20K, basis to LLC is $4k M1 and M2's outside basis in their LLC interest is 5K. Retiring M2 leaves, gets 6K worth of cash and 4K worth of notes. His outside basis is 5K, so he has 5K of gain. LLC now only has assets of 14K, plus owes a note of 4K. .... help me continue |
January 18, 2007 | |
Under Rev. Rul. 99-6, the conversion of the MMLLC to a SMLLC is treated as a deemed liquidation of the partnership followed by a purchase of 50% of the assets. Selling partner (SP) is deemed to have sold his 50% share of the assets to buying partner (BP). BP's basis in the 50% assets acquired equals the amount paid, so no Sec. 743(b) adjustment needed (not to mention the fact that there is no more partnership, so Sec. 754 is out the window). BP's holding period for the 50% share of assets starts on day after the date of sale (note: BP's holding period for the 50% of assets distributed to him includes the holding period of the partnership). Notwithstanding the deemed distribution, SP is deemed to have sold his partnership interest.
On another note, I didn't understand your comment "LLC gave a new 2nd mortgage to selling member" - are you saying that BP gave SP a promissory note (i.e., installment sale) secured by a mortgage? |
18 January 2007 | |
since the 1065 dissolves, M1 gets the assets worth 14K, subject to a 4k note.
M1's outside basis was only 5k. I say outside basis is increased by the 4k note the assets were subject to - I'd want to assign it to the real estate, up to FMV. The rest of the outside basis? |
18 January 2007 | |
Reg. 1.1(h)-1 |
18 January 2007 | |
SP received cash for general value of the LLC assets (essentially value of his capital account),and received a mortgage payable within 5 years on the bldg. The amount of the mtg represents the difference between his net book value of the bldg and the FMV at date of sale. So, if I read FRF65 correctly, it will be a distribution in liquidation to both. Therefore, SP as well as BP will pay tax as appropriate on their distributions in excess of basis, right? That allows SP to contribute all assets of the LLC to a new SMLLC with new total basis at value of both their distributions combined (allocated appropriately to various assets, of course). I think my only confusion now is timing of the liquidation and sale for tax purposes. Does BP first buyout SP and then liquidate, or does LLC liquidate and then BP gives the mtg to SP outside the LLC.....Do I detect a chicken and egg thing here? |
18 January 2007 | |
the way I read the Reg Dennis provided a link to comes up with something different Inkyj. More like I was suggesting. Orig outside basis + purchase basis assigned to all assets. |
January 19, 2007 | |
Inkyj - read Rev. Rul. 99-6. I don't think it matters how you structure it, this is the "deemed" result when there is a conversion of multi-member LLC to single-member LLC.
Kevin – let’ simplify your facts a little bit and assume that inside basis equals outside basis; accordingly, FMV = $20k, LLC’s basis = $10k, and M1 & M2 each have outside basis of $5k. M1 buys M2’s 50% interest by paying $6k in cash and $4k in note. M2 has a $5k gain on the sale of his interest. M1 is deemed to have paid $10k for 50% of the assets and that is his basis for that 50%. His basis in the other 50% of the assets equals $5k, which was the LLC’s inside basis prior to the deemed liquidation (i.e., he gets carryover basis). |