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Fr. Mackelhenry (talk|edits) said:

29 September 2013
Deacon Woodrow Karey shot Pastor Ronald Harris while he was delivering his sermon; the pastor passed; dropped between his tracts.

First, let me say that in the (real) old days, this would have been considered nothing unusual except they would have used a knife or a sword to dispatch the pastor. People took their doctrine seriously before the secular humanists seized control of our society. So, this would have been at least a monthly occurence before the scourge of the Renaissance descended upon us.

My guess (and I'm not a lawman) would be that the motive probably involves revolves around one of the following:

a) A woman, or in church terminology, a Jezebel

b) Money, or in church terminology, filthy lucre

c) Drugs, usually connected with money, in church terminology, physic

d) Church Doctrine, (no one knows any, so this would be unlikely today)

H.D.J. Friefunk (talk|edits) said:

29 September 2013
Fr. Mackelhenry, even though you are one of the most respected prelates on the Board, I think you could be showing your age.

This could have been motivated by:

e) Lover's quarrel between the parties, or in church terminology: they were sodomites

You need to get with it, old man.

Fr. Mackelhenry (talk|edits) said:

29 September 2013
<clears throat> Listen here you young Kraut, what is the meaning of this "old" stuff? I'm so mad I could rrrrrr. Why I could take my hands and squeeze your neck woop...woop Whoa! Slow down myself. Whoa mule! Mercy. <Ahem>

In consideration of what happened around here yesterday, I will hold my tongue.

Everyone have a blessed day. Blessings bestowed upon all, etc.

Kathyt (talk|edits) said:

1 October 2013
Guess #1 is correct - this happened in the town I live in (although not my church), and it seems that the pastor was sleeping with the shooter's wife.

PollyAdler (talk|edits) said:

1 October 2013
Sleeping with the shooter's wife. Terrible. Number one on the list. It's like the old Hollywood movies Kathyt. Cherchez la femme.

I hope the church members will blame this on the Pastor and not on the Jezebel who was sleeping with him. The Deacon should be welcomed back into the church after he serves his time. If the Deacon is "put to sleep" by the government, the the church should be renamed after the Deacon as a lesson to other men not to do wrong and sleep with another man's wife.

PollyAdler (talk|edits) said:

1 October 2013
Update: I see the newspaper is reporting that the Jezebel had reported the Pastor for rape either two weeks or two months before the shooting.

Now, it could have been a real rape. Or perhaps the Deacon found about about the sex and the wife then quickly made up the rape allegation to keep from the Deacon killing her.

I use the word "Jezebel" here because that is church talk for women in general. Women always tempt the men according to the church. A woman is a born sex animal and the man is not. The man can take it or leave it. He's not the one after it.

NMexEA (talk|edits) said:

2 October 2013
You and I know, Polly, that this incident demonstrates the real reason we maintain religious institutions: their entertainment value. And the convenient thing about religion in general is that if someone in the business gets hurt following a dalliance or act of dishonesty, we need feel no pang of sympathy or regret because "He deserved it."

It's a lot like watching pro football but bloodier!

Markb29 (talk|edits) said:

2 October 2013
the real reason for religous institutions is to allow some on this board to feel so intellectually superior....

PollyAdler (talk|edits) said:

3 October 2013
Entertainment is right, NMex. It's like there is a big sign on some of the churches today: Cranks, bigots, luddites and fruit cakes welcome here, especially if you are a hypocrite and like to make excuses for your behavior. When the conservative Church says it takes in the Lost today, it really means it, brother. It really means it.

What they will do here in this case is somehow manage to defend this Pastor. "Oh, he was a man of God. We need to forgive him." All rot. It's terrible he got killed, but he should maintain a higher standard as a pastor.

I am actually shocked by some of the excuses the religiositists (SC, can this be a word?) make for their prelates, pastors and ministers and preachers. I mean it's like they work in an excuse factory.

I reminds me of passage once written by the old preacher J. Vernon McGee (who I happen to like, he's the Thru the Bible Man): " it's no wonder people sell out to the Devil. What is surprising is that they sell out so cheap." [From memory, I paraphrase.]

When I say I like Vernon, I mean his old sermons and talks. I don't agree with many of them, but I like them. I like his bluntness, and how he always cast a weary eye toward "business". He's been dead for many years now, but you can hear him on the internet and radio.

And the modern church, and particularly the modern conservative church, has sold itself at a cheap price to the Devil.

P.S. I do take back what I said about the Pastor because there has not been a trial yet of the Deacon, and the Jezebel has not been questioned on the stand. It's just reported that he bred with the Jezebel. We don't know that he slept with her at all, or slept with her by mutual agreement, or if he raped her. All we have is gunsmoke, and yes, where there is smoke there is usually fire, but not always.

I hope the DA can get his hands on the Pastor's cell phone before one of the people in the church does and tries to wipe the memory out. I would not be surprised if the Pastor had some dirty pictures on his phone. But again, we must await further developments before casting the first stone.

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