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Discussion:Can I Still Call Myself a RTRP?

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Sumwun (talk|edits) said:

24 January 2013
So I passed the RTRP exam in December and got my certificate from the IRS a few weeks later. I completed 29 hours of CE and paid my PTIN fee, for the current year, in December. So, before last Friday's judgement, I had no doubt that I am allowed to refer to myself as a RTRP. What, though, do I call myself this week (clean answers only please...)? My reading of the statement from the IRS is that non-CPA, EA & attorney preparers are not required to complete testing and CE. So where does that leave someone who met the requirements before the ruling?

I realize that passing the RTRP exam merely indicates minimal competence in 1040 preparation. However, for this year at least, I think it might be a useful marketing point.

Greenjas (talk|edits) said:

24 January 2013
Yes.

Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

24 January 2013
Personally, I think the IRS will make this a voluntary designation. Those who want to be RTRPs may be.

DvilleCPA (talk|edits) said:

24 January 2013
Does anyone think that the IRS will try to get Congress to pass a law putting RTRP rules back in effect.

Gazoo (talk|edits) said:

24 January 2013
The rumors are running rampant. Apparently, the Service had printed up one million RTRP T- Shirts to hand out at the Tax Forums each year. Anyone can get a free T Shirt by filing a claim with the Service supply office within the next week. After that, they will be shipped to poor children in Africa and Siberia.

The other rumor is that CPAs, EAs and attorney's will be required to help RTRPs file for refunds of their $63 (Form 13-5504), and they cannot charge for filling out this form and e-filing it with the Service! The Service promises it will mail back the $63 checks sometime during July, and if not by then, at least by Christmas 2013.

The other rumor is that once the RTRP program is shut down, all the personal information collected will be sold to mail order catalog companies to try to recover the cost to the government.

Sumwun (talk|edits) said:

24 January 2013
Cro...er...Gazoo, they already sold our information.

Kevin, if it is to become a voluntary designation, do you think it would help the profession of the IRS took inspiration from the Association of Taxation Technicians in the UK? See http://www.att.org.uk/.

Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

24 January 2013
I think that having a voluntary designation with registration and CPE requirements would still show the public that an RTRP is interested in staying current and agrees to abide by ethical rules.

Sumwun (talk|edits) said:

24 January 2013
I suppose what I was getting at is whether a voluntary designation should be beefed up. The ATT tests its candidates on individual, corporate, trust and value added tax compliance, as well as business environment. The organization consists of those who work at a level just below Chartered Tax Advisers (which is broadly equivalent to the EA designation). I studied for the ATT exam when I lived in the UK. Back then it was one paper on personal taxation and one on Corporation Tax, but for a variety of reasons, I never got around to sitting the exam. I do recall that, even then, it tested quite a bit more than minimal competence.

Gjkycpa (talk|edits) said:

25 January 2013
A staff member, my son, was scheduled to take the RTRP Tuesday. He went on the Prometric website and no mention of cancellations or how to get refunds for exam ($116). He called Prometric center in Lexington, KY direct and the guy who answered the phone said that nobody has been showing up for their exam, and if they did, he could not even start the exam for them. $116, plus 2 preparers PTIN for each year. What a mess this is, anybody see any end in sight? Will probably just have him study for the EA this summer.

Sumwun (talk|edits) said:

25 January 2013
So this is already causing a real problem. No doubt Prometric will seek to enforce their cancellation policy, which means you are out $116. I should hope the IRS would bear that cost.

Tax Writer (talk|edits) said:

31 January 2013
FYI everyone: I got a notice in my IRS CPE provider mailbox this morning. On Jan 23rd, the IRS asked for the injunction preventing them from administering the RTRP program to be lifted. As of Jan 23rd, 2013, the CPE for RTRPs is voluntary, and the IRS is not approving new coursework, although they are still allowing us to upload CPE hours for individual students who take the courses.

The notice I recieved today says that the IRS and the DOJ plan a formal appeal within 30 days.

I wanted to copy and paste from the notice, but for some reason the PDF is secured. I can post a public copy if you guys want to see it.

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