Discussion Archives:Do we have to pay taxes at all?

I told him that it doesn’t make any sense to me, but since I do not know the answer to this question , because I never saw this code, I decided to ask, if his question was stupid or smart.

Take a look at the Tax Protester FAQ, just don't let any of the crazy get on you.

http://mauledagain.blogspot.com/

I thank you for your reply, but whatever links you gave me are not links to the code that would say that we have to pay taxes.

Do you know a link to the code?

Public Law ***** Imposes on every Individual an requirement to File a Tax Return (no less than annually) and to Pay over to the United States Treasury an amount of tax.

It is not simply states since the IRC has been amended numerous times over the past 95-years.

Be sure of this, if you have a client taking the position that - there is no law simply stating the requirement to pay taxes - be certain to warn them - the IRS treats "Tax Prostesters" harshly - very harshly.

Clearly, every Citizen and Resident Alien and Non-Resident Alien with sources of Income within the United States of America has the strict obligation to maintain records, to time report (file) all tax returns, to estimate and pay over tax, and to timely file all tax returns.

But this is just WikipediA. I placed there record about myself once. This is not a legal source. Though, they have an external link to http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/charters_of_freedom_8.html

I assume that since it’s .gov I can trust this source, but still it’s not very convincing. :o( And, don’t you worry about me, I’m not going to listen to nerdy meanly and nonsense clients.

After all, thanks to this law (or whatever it is) I have a business to run. I was just curious, why people ask these kinds of questions? I just needed a break from preparing income taxes, and intertain myself a little.  :)

Now that's entertainment.

AEM CPA, I didn’t ask you to give me these links to scare piss out of me. I asked you for a link to a code. Of course it’s entertainment! When a desperate client, a truck driver, bought a house just a year ago, took interest-only loan over the roof (all he could take), and right after this his driver license was revoked, because he plead guilty, because he is Russian, and didn’t understand what that guy told him over the phone. So he just said “yes, guilty”. So he ended up paying for his truck, and a new house with zero income; and he comes up with a question if he really must pay taxes.

I don’t know about you, but I have a lot of fun.

As mentioned, I read an interesting book I checked out at the library about 5 years ago on this very subject, I don't remember the title, but if I'm at the branch in the future, I'll try to update this post.

Frankly, I don't have time to sit and chew the fat with the protestors. It may be a question with interesting theoretical overtones, but clients never seem willing to pay for the theoretical. Besides, in the final analysis, I can't see any Court willing to abolish itself, since it's tax money that pays to keep the lights on in the Courthouse.

P.S. I should point out that when you see a billionaire like Leona Helmsley (Deceased) go to jail, with her bank of highly paid lawyers, it should give the average TP pause.

It's always a pleasure to read your post.

Darryl strawberry may also vouch for the seriosness of paying your taxes, lol.

I didn’t work in IRS, but this is exactly what I told my client: I never saw this law, and can’t tell you exactly if it exists. But if you don’t pay, you have to deal with IRS, and it’s similar to KGB. So he rested his case immediately. Lol

You didn’t get it! I don’t need an overview! I can write an overview myself. Do you know that I’m a writer? Lol! I’ll write all you want! www.usfinances.net/book

I was asking for a link to an actual code!  :o))

You didn’t get it! I don’t need an overview! I can write an overview myself. Do you know that I’m a writer? Lol! I’ll write all you want! www.usfinances.net/book

I was asking for a link to an actual code!  :o))

You also asked "why do people asked these questions" and I gave you a link to a site that gives plentiful evidence.

I don't have difficulties to research the internet. I'm a computer programmer after all. LOL.

It was very thoughtful of you! Appreciate it. I'm just teasing you. As I said, I'm entertained.

this video on youtube kinda sums up the twists and turns regarding the assertions and IRC references you might be looking for

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TexCPA 12:49, 5 March 2009 (CST)

Actually, I'm going to be referring him to an attorney. This file is warm when I touch it.

Wkstaxprep, It’s a very good question! Isn't it? Screw taxes, let's go shopping! I think this is the better solution to support the economy at this particular moment. They’ll waste tax money for another bail out anyway. lol

A little history lesson and correction:

While you are correct about the US Constitution, your citation is incorrect. Article I Section 8 deals with the issue you refer to as to the legislative branch and it states the following:

Section 8. The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

However, the 16th Amendment ratified in 1913:

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several states, and without regard to any census or enumeration.

and the history of that can be found here:

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Now, Dsg, your client can play all the games the tax protesters do, but I suggest they just look at these items and just suck it up.

Tom

Thanks.

That band picture is 10 years old. The only people in the band still are me and two others. I am out right now on leave until I get better.

I have to laugh about your client. These clients always crack me up. I just laugh at them and tell them I don't get into that work and leave it at that.

A place I worked for was a haven for fielding calls from these crackpots. They would always get directed to me for some reason. I was just the controller. I just told them to read the US Constitution and point them to this and that just to get them off the phone. Boy, they were fun to deal with, that's all I can say.

Tom

As usual, DsgLouise has managed to capture the situation in a few well chosen words..."But if you don’t pay, you have to deal with IRS, and it’s similar to KGB. So he rested his case immediately."