Discussion:Air filter not acting up, but there's this *noise*...
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Harry Boscoe (talk|edits) said: | 11 June 2012 |
Does anybody here know anything about an electrostatic air filter that's making a really really really really high-pitched whistle? The filter is a add-on to the furnace-A/C-air-handler and is powered by a converter that plugs into the wall socket. The filter seems to be "on" all the time; no switch, no electrical connection to the air handler.
The filter seems to be working okay, based on the amount of particles it has accumulated over the heating season but now someone with better hearing than I have has pointed out the "only-dogs-and-young-people-who-didn't-go-to-rock-concerts-can-hear-it" whistle coming from the filter (it's not coming from the voltage converter, it's coming from the business end of the filter itself). Additional facts are available, but I don't know which ones to toss out here... |
Pink Pearl (talk|edits) said: | 11 June 2012 |
sounds like a filter bypass issue..[1] |
Harry Boscoe (talk|edits) said: | 11 June 2012 |
Thanks for the input, Pearl, and especially the link to Hamilton-Beach's site.
The ~20kH "singing" is there even when there's no air going through/past the filter, as when it's been removed from the box where it lives while it's working as a filter. The noise seems to come from the electronics in the end of the filter frame near where the electric power goes into it. |
Pink Pearl (talk|edits) said: | 11 June 2012 |
have you tried licking your finger and putting said wet finger into the frame to see if the noise stops??? |
Pink Pearl (talk|edits) said: | 11 June 2012 |
DISCLAIMER: I am not a licensed electrician.. however I am taking the REAT (Registered Electrical Advisor Test) next month which is required to maintain my side business dispensing useful electrical fix-it solutions for clients that cannot afford a licensed electrician. |
Death&Taxes (talk|edits) said: | 11 June 2012 |
I can't wait to hear Crow's explanation. |
11 June 2012 | |
It's probably a cricket that mistook the unit for a bug zapper.
Seriously, this is just the normal operation of the unit Harry is dealing with here. It's called "electro static" for a reason. It is constantly producing electric charge, probably a negative charge to attract the positively charged dust particles. The problem is not with the filter. Harry just needs to build a 2,000 foot addition to his home and put the HVAC unit way out on one end of it far away from where actually he lives. A cheaper solution would be to replace the drywall in the room where his heating and air unit is located with a professional soundproofing drywall, the downside to this solution is that you would never know if anything was wrong in this room until the unit actually exploded and took the house and it's occupants up into the clouds with it. An even cheaper solution would be to wear ear plugs while in the house, which has the side benefit of reducing unwanted "spousal static" as well. It could also be that Harry's entire home is in an overpowered condition. Condition red. It could be a neighbor with a windmill or solar power leaking extra juice into the system, or Harry's generator could be leaking back into the house, or some other cause which is over powering his electrical system and the little converter can't handle the load. Too much juice is being fed into the filter. Try replacing the wall wart. After thinking it over, it might be time to put in a call to "This Old House" and see what they have to say about it. Or what about a call to the Master Handyman (and salesman) Glenn Haege? If you have a problem, Glenn has a product to fix it. P.S. Signal filters whistle when they need to be cleaned. WHISTLES WHEN IT NEEDS TO BE CLEANED A clean filter is important to the operation and efficiency of your HVAC system. Cleaning every 2 - 3 months will ensure your Signal Air Filter operates at peak efficiency. In case you forget, Signal Air Filters have a built-in whistle to remind you when they need cleaned. The whistle sounds when the filter is 80% clogged. I wonder if Hamilton Beach whistles or whether your installer slipped in a Signal when you weren't looking? |
11 June 2012 | |
By the way, after Harry gets his problem solved, can anyone here please tell me if they have ever had success with a microfiber cloth? I've never bought one that works worth a d*mn. A 100% cotton diaper makes a much better cleaning cloth (obviously I mean a clean diaper).
I've tried everything to make the "revolutionary" microfiber cloths work, including not using dryer sheets or fabric softener of any kind while laundering them. Is the microfiber or microfibre cloth for real, or is it just more of the same BS the modern world seems to be full of? |
12 June 2012 | |
It could be Tinnitus caused by old age!
Tinnitus comes from the Latin word tinnire, meaning "to ring." Tinnitus can be perceived in one or both ears or in the head. It is usually described as a ringing noise, but in some people it takes the form of a high pitched whining, buzzing, hissing, humming, or whistling sound, or as ticking, clicking, roaring, "crickets" or "tree frogs" or "locusts", tunes, songs, or beeping. I hear crickets all the time, even when there is snow on the ground! |
Death&Taxes (talk|edits) said: | 12 June 2012 |
Tinnitus can be serious. My sister more or less shuts down when attacks hit her. She calls them 'the noise machine.' She has had this since being in her early 30s and working with noisy machinery for hours at a time back in 'the good old days.' |
12 June 2012 | |
Harry has been awful quiet. I hope nothing untoward occurred. I forgot to mention to turn off the circuit breaker. Pearl, as a REAT, you should have mentioned it. I'd hate to see our fix it column lose it's first customer. |
Harry Boscoe (talk|edits) said: | 12 June 2012 |
WHADDYA MEAN I'VE BEEN AWFUL QUIET? I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER THIS %#$%^&* SINGING/WHISTLING NOISE FROM THE GODDAMN FURNACE FILTER. Actually, I've put your responses through my BS and sarcasm filters and what to my surprise, there was good stuff in those responses. Thanks! |
13 June 2012 | |
If you throw enough stuff against the wall, something is bound to stick. Maybe. :) |
Pink Pearl (talk|edits) said: | 13 June 2012 |
"Pearl, as a REAT, you should have mentioned it" Ooops..sorry bout that but it only takes 70% knowledge to pass the REAT and the part about turning off circuit breaker wuz probably in the 30% I didn't know about...little known facts like that will probably be covered in future CET (Continuing Electrical Training) courses that I hafta take each year..I usually use this little gizmo I bought online to help me make most decisions about electrical problems..I have heard that a Gizmo is no substitute for a good electrician. |