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Death&Taxes (talk|edits) said:

13 December 2011
Will we see this tax season be the one with 1099-Ks popping up in the most unexpected places?

I had a call from a client in southern California, who files Sch A, B & occasional D with her husband. Amazon has contacted her regarding the sales generated by her selling of books through them......used books she, hubby and her late parents bought through the years. These are not collectibles but she has grossed more than $600 so far this year, and Amazon wants her SSN etc. Naturally most of these books are being sold for much less than the original amount paid.

This does not sound like an attempt to make a profit (do remember, she is 3000 miles away from me, so I cannot see the inventory), but it is not a loss either......it is just one more thing to be put on the list of items that we will see pop up this year.

And if the return is efiled, you know that any statement attached which says she has a 1099-K for $912 but her costs of purchasing the books is greater, but the activity does not rise to the level of trade or business, will not be transmitted or read.....so hear come the CP-2000s.

Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

13 December 2011
Thus NAEA wants real-time customer service in response to the IRS' real-time tax processing.

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

December 14, 2011
Wouldn't the de minimis rule come into play here? The 1099-K is only required if gross sales are at least $20,000 and the number of transactions is at least 200. It sounds like Amazon is creating more work for itself than it needs to.

Death&Taxes (talk|edits) said:

14 December 2011
I spoke to her again; from what she said we are talking in the 6,000-8,000 range, which deserves a form. I am going to be curious....the threat from Amazon is that if she does not provide SSN, she will be delisted as a seller.

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

December 14, 2011
What do you mean, which deserves a form? The directions state that the form is not required if gross sales are less than $20,000.

CrowJD (talk|edits) said:

15 December 2011
Natalie, you can't fight city hall. If Amazon wants the number, what can you do? By the same token, if "The Man" sends you a 1099 you better report it whether you earned it or not. Both of you are getting hung up on taxability which is irrelevant. If you had ever studied Russian culture you would understand this. This is called putting "forms" over "facts" and you best do it if you know what's good for you.

Now the form itself becomes the fact. If Joe Stalin came back today and learned about the 1099, he would say, "Why didn't I think of that?"

It's the fact of the matter and not the truth of the matter that counts.

CathysTaxes (talk|edits) said:

15 December 2011
Looks like Amazon is being pro-active. Jan 1st is not time to start getting FEINs. It's something that should be done all year during the year. The 1099 is required for over $20,000 but that doesn't mean the company can't send a vendor a W-9. I also have an internet business and a school district sent me a W-9 to fill out BEFORE they would do business with me (still waiting for them to order).

Death&Taxes (talk|edits) said:

15 December 2011
I have a client who is the head of a musical organization in a summer resort. He has them give 1099s to all musicians following the $600 or more rule, except for one person (another client) who receives one no matter his income. Every year I hear this guy bitch, so I told him to ask the other guy 'why the 1099?' Instead of saying, 'Did you earn the money?' his answer was 'I give you a 1099 because I can't stand you.'

CrowJD (talk|edits) said:

15 December 2011
I was at the beach this summer looking at a young lady wearing a skimpy thong and she motioned me over and started to sweet talk me and managed to get my Social. Before I knew it she started scribbling and she served me on the spot with a 1099 and with the comment that I had certainly got my money's worth by looking at her thong. She got my goat but good. How was I supposed to know she had just gotten her CPA? Pretty soon what Jesus said will come true and just thinking about these young women will cost you.

Fr. Mackelhenry (talk|edits) said:

15 December 2011
Crow, I think we've finally figured out the Bible mystery of what Jesus was doing when he took a stick and started writing upon the ground. He was filling out a 1099 on those who would cast stones. For the Saved the wages of sin may not mean death but they are taxable all the same.

TTMM (talk|edits) said:

15 December 2011
I'm falling on the floor laughing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CathysTaxes (talk|edits) said:

15 December 2011
Geez, I don't know who's funnier, the lawyer or the priest! You guys are a riot!

Natalie (talk|edits) said:

December 15, 2011
". . . what can you do?" In the past, I've told people who want to issue me a 1099 that it's not required. When they realize that, they're happy they have one less 1099 to worry about.

"Both of you are getting hung up on taxability " That's only half true -- only D&T brought up the issue of taxability.

I recommend to my clients they get a W-9 from anyone they will likely be required to send a 1099. I would guess that Amazon and e-bay have a lot of people who will not need to be issued a 1099, hence my statement that I think they are creating more work than is necessary (and churning up a lot of anxiety among their sellers as well).

JR1 (talk|edits) said:

December 15, 2011
Fr, you finally said something worthwhile. Now we know what Jesus wrote in the dirt.

JR1 (talk|edits) said:

December 15, 2011
So a lawyer, a priest, and an accountant, walk into a bar together. (First question, are they all Crow?)

Badda bum.

Fr. Mackelhenry (talk|edits) said:

15 December 2011
lol. That's true, when Crow talks to himself I'm the only one who makes any sense. I am the hound from heaven that Flannery O'Conner alludes to in Wise Blood; amd Crow is a full time hounding project for a religious man like me. Or as the Misfit said in another one of her stories the grandmother would ok if there was someone around to shoot her every day of her life, and I'm here to shoot Crow every day if he gets out of line.

Death&Taxes (talk|edits) said:

15 December 2011
" I pointed to two old drunks sitting across the bar from us and told my friend "That's us in 10 years". He said, "That's a mirror, you dimwit!"

from my friend Paul Mulshine

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