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Barmy (talk|edits) said:

20 February 2006
After much reading I am still unsure how to take my client's child. She was widowed in 2000 and for the past tax years has been qualifying widow of HH. Now her son is 24 and a full time student. He made 8000 at a part-time job. she provided more than half of his support-- including tuition of over 11000. Can she calsim HH with him as dependent or single with him as dependent or is he out of luck for this year and files a single return with no dependents?

If in 2006 the child earns less than 3300 can he be claimed in 2006?

Riley2 (talk|edits) said:

20 February 2006
No dependency exemption available unless the child is totally and permanently disabled. No HOH unless she has another qualifying child or relative.

Martineo (talk|edits) said:

20 February 2006
I know you are great Riley2, AND

Maybe I'm confused. Check ,please, Lasser's 2006, pages 419 and 420 From page 422, right left side , small note I quoted:

"THE GROSS INCOME TEST DOES NOT APPLY TO QUALIFYING CHILDREN, INCLUDING FULL-TIME STUDENTS WHO ARE UNDER AGE 24 AS OF THE END OF THE YEAR"

Riley2 (talk|edits) said:

20 February 2006
This child is over the age of 23.

Martineo (talk|edits) said:

20 February 2006
Less than 25 years old and full time student is okey.

24 is okey. 25 is too old.

Riley2 (talk|edits) said:

20 February 2006
Sorry, Marineo. Congress doesn't see it that way. A QC who is a student must be under the age of 24 at midnight on December 31, 2005. Thus, he must be 23 years of age or younger. See Sec. 152(c)(3)(A)(ii).

Taxref (talk|edits) said:

21 February 2006
Riley2 is correct, the key is under age 24.

Martineo (talk|edits) said:

21 February 2006
SORRY- TRUE- HE,HE

WHERE DID I GET THE 25??? UNDER 24, = 23 OR LEES THAN 23 AM I GETTING OLD?

Taxea@hawaii.rr.com (talk|edits) said:

23 February 2006
Okay I got this from Pub 553...highlights of 2005 tax changes...hope this helps everyone...

2005 Changes

Uniform Definition of a Qualifying Child Beginning in 2005, one definition of a “qualifying child” will apply for each of the following tax benefits.

Dependency exemption.

Head of household filing status.

Earned income credit (EIC).

Child tax credit.

Credit for child and dependent care expenses.


Tests To Meet In general, all four of the following tests must be met to claim someone as a qualifying child.

Relationship test. The child must be your child (including an adopted child, stepchild, or eligible foster child), brother, sister, stepbrother, stepsister, or a descendent of one of these relatives.

 An adopted child includes a child lawfully placed with you for legal adoption even if the adoption is not final. 
 An eligible foster child is any child who is placed with you by an authorized placement agency or by judgment, decree, or other order of any court of competent jurisdiction. 

Residency test. The child must live with you for more than half of the year. Temporary absences for special circumstances, such as for school, vacation, medical care, military service, or detention in a juvenile facility count as time lived at home. A child who was born or died during the year is considered to have lived with you for the entire year if your home was the child's home for the entire time he or she was alive during the year. Also, exceptions apply, in certain cases, for children of divorced or separated parents and parents of kidnapped children. For more information, see Publication 501, Exemptions, Standard Deduction, and Filing Information.

Age test. The child must be under a certain age (depending on the tax benefit) to be your qualifying child.

Dependency exemption, head of household filing status, and EIC. For purposes of these tax benefits, a child must be under age 19 at the end of the year, or under age 24 at the end of 2005 if a student, or any age if permanently and totally disabled.

 A student is any child who, during any 5 months of the year: 

Was enrolled as a full-time student at a school, or

Took a full-time, on-farm training course given by a school or a state, county, or local government agency.


 A school includes a technical, trade, or mechanical school. It does not include an on-the-job training course, correspondence school, or night school. 

Child tax credit. For purposes of the child tax credit, a child must be under the age of 17.

Credit for child and dependent care expenses. For purposes of the credit for child and dependent care expenses, a child must be under the age of 13 or any age if permanently and totally disabled.

Support test. The child cannot have provided over half of his or her own support during the year. For the definition of support, see Support Test, in Publication 501.

Exception. For purposes of the EIC only, the support test does not apply.

Qualifying Child of More Than One Person Sometimes a child meets the tests to be a qualifying child of more than one person. However, only one person can treat that child as a qualifying child. If you and someone else (other than your spouse if filing jointly) have the same qualifying child, you and the other person(s) can decide who will claim the child. If you cannot agree on who will claim the child and more than one person files a return using the same child, the IRS may disallow one or more of the claims using the tie-breaker rule explained in Table 1, below.

Table 1. When More Than One Person Files a Return Claiming the Same Qualifying Child (Tie-Breaker Rule) IF . . . THEN the child will be treated as the qualifying child of the. . . only one of the persons is the child's parent, parent. both persons are the child's parent, parent with whom the child lived for the longer period of time. If the child lived with each parent for the same amount of time, then the child will be treated as the qualifying child of the parent with the highest adjusted gross income (AGI). none of the persons are the child's parent, person with the highest AGI.

Dependency Exemption To claim the dependency exemption for a qualifying child, all four tests listed earlier under Tests To Meet must be met. The child generally must also be a U.S. citizen, U.S. national, or a resident of the United States, Canada, or Mexico. An exception applies for certain adopted children. If married, the child cannot file a joint return unless the return is filed only as a claim for refund and no tax liability would exist for either spouse if they had filed separate returns.

A person who used to qualify as your dependent but who is not your “qualifying child” may still qualify as your dependent as a “qualifying relative.” To claim the dependency exemption for a qualifying relative, the person cannot be the qualifying child of any other person and all five dependency tests discussed under Dependency Tests in Publication 501 must be met.


If you are a dependent of another person, you cannot claim any dependents on your return.

Head of Household Filing Status In general, you can use head of household filing status only if, as of the end of the year, you were unmarried or “considered unmarried” and you paid over half the cost of keeping up a home:

That was the main home for the entire year of your parent whom you can claim as a dependent (your parent did not have to live with you), or

In which you lived for more than half of the year with either of the following:

Your qualifying child (defined earlier, but without regard to the exception for children of divorced or separated parents). But, if your qualifying child is married at the end of the year, see Married child, later.

Any other person whom you can claim as a dependent.

But you cannot use head of household filing status for a person who is your dependent only because:

He or she lived with you for the entire year, or

You are entitled to claim him or her as a dependent under a multiple support agreement.


Married child. If your qualifying child is married at the end of the year, both of the following must apply for the child to be your qualifying child for purposes of head of household filing status. The child cannot file a joint return unless the return is filed only as a claim for refund and no tax liability would exist for either spouse if they had filed separate returns.

The child must be a U.S. citizen, U.S. national, or a resident of the United States, Canada, or Mexico. An exception applies for certain adopted children.


Earned Income Credit (EIC) For purposes of the EIC, a qualifying child must meet the Relationship test, Residency test (without regard to the exception for children of divorced or separated parents), and Age test, discussed earlier. A qualifying child does not have to meet the Support test for purposes of the EIC. But, if your qualifying child is married at the end of the year, see Married child, below. For additional rules that you must meet to claim the EIC, see Publication 596, Earned Income Credit.

Married child. A child who is married at the end of the year is a qualifying child for purposes of the EIC only if you can claim him or her as your dependent (see Dependency Exemption, earlier) or this child's other parent claims him or her as a dependent under the rules for children of divorced or separated parents in Publication 501.

Child Tax Credit You may be able to take the child tax credit if you have a qualifying child who meets all four of the tests listed earlier under Tests To Meet. For additional rules that you must meet, see Publication 972, Child Tax Credit.

Credit for Child and Dependent Care Expenses Generally, a qualifying person for purposes of the credit for child and dependent care expenses is:

Your qualifying child (defined earlier, but without regard to the exception for parents of kidnapped children), or

Your dependent or spouse who is physically or mentally incapable of caring for himself or herself and who lived with you for more than half of the year.

For purposes of the credit for child and dependent care expenses, a qualifying child and dependent are determined without regard to the exception for children of divorced or separated parents and the child is treated as a qualifying person only for the custodial parent.

For additional rules that you must meet, see Publication 503, Child and Dependent Care Expenses. However, for 2005, you no longer need to meet the Keeping Up a Home Test discussed in Publication 503.

BethAZ (talk|edits) said:

30 November 2007
18 year old (at 12/31/06) boy was a member of my clients' (MFJ) household for the entire year.

He did not have any earned income.

They provided 100% of his support.

His mother provided no support for him and he did not live with her at all in 2006. Since neither the residence nor the support tests were met, it seemed to me that he was never eligible to be her qualifying child in 2006. Am I correct?

Since these four tests were met (residency, income, support, qualifying dependent of another), I believe my clients were entitled to claim him as a qualifying relative in 2006.

His mother, who lives in another state, evidently also claimed him as a dependent in 2006.

If he is not eligible to be claimed as her qualifying child, will the tie breaker rules apply?

Thanks for your advice.

TheTinCook (talk|edits) said:

30 November 2007
Nope. The tie breaker rules only apply when there is more then one QC claim on a child. The only way the mother can prevail is if she can show that the time away from her household was a "tempory absence".

So it really depends why the kid was living with your clients.

Johnhuddleston (talk|edits) said:

30 November 2007
Beth, your client is the father, correct? It sounds like he wins.

John Huddleston Seattle Bellevue Tax Accountant

BethAZ (talk|edits) said:

30 November 2007
The boy is a friend of my clients' son. His home life with his mother was very unhappy, so they took him in. He has been living with them full time for the past 5 years. His mother left him and moved out of state. His father is AWOL. My clients did not claim him as a dependent until after he turned 18 to avoid confrontation with the mother.

Thanks for your reassurance. I have to answer the IRS, and have found the applicable references. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't misunderstanding the QC tie breaker rule.

Welcome, John. I've been reading your posts and am so happy you've joined the community.

TinCook, congrats on becoming an EA!

Bengoshi (talk|edits) said:

30 November 2007
Agree w/ TinCook based on your stated facts. Doesn't seem that the child is a "qualifying child" of the mother since they didn't share the same principal place of abode for more than 1/2 of the year (and it doesn't appear to be just a "temporary absence" from mother's home -- unless some special circumstance like the mother's illness was involved). Assuming all the tests for a "qualifying relative" are met, your client was likely entitled to the dependency exemption for the youngster.

DerekCPA (talk|edits) said:

30 November 2007
Perhaps there is a divorce decree addressing that issue ?

DerekCPA (talk|edits) said:

30 November 2007
OOPS Just read the Beths last post . I stand corrected

Taxref (talk|edits) said:

30 November 2007
Your client gets the deduction, as the child is a QR of your client's. The child is not a QC of the mother, due to the residence test. The child also fails the support test to be a QR of the mother.

The only technical point I would note is that you mentioned the child has no earned income, but you didn't mention unearned income. The 2006 gross income test was $3,300 for a QR.

Szptax (talk|edits) said:

7 February 2008
what about a child who turned 18 during the year (april) & spent time in a juvinile detention facility, & finished his GED by years end - not 5+mos full time student. no for HOH, yes for dependency?

RoyDaleOne (talk|edits) said:

8 February 2008
I did note one case were the mother was in jail for 5 months and lived with her parents for 7 months and the court allowed HOH.

I remember correctly FWIW.

Szptax (talk|edits) said:

8 February 2008
really Roy - what case? I am double thinking myself here...Client (father) has a son who was arrested on drug charges. The son lived with the mother at the time of the arrest & was 17 at the time. After the arrest, he moved in with the father (for greater supervision and because of the element with whom he had associated himself & there is a younger sister, which concerned the parents). He turned 18 (April), served in juvenile detention 6 months, causing him not to graduate high school & then achieved his GED while in jv & afterwards, thereby graduating December. So - he meets the dependency using the time in detention. He was not a full time student for 5+ months. Does the father get to claim HOH or just the dependent?

RoyDaleOne (talk|edits) said:

8 February 2008
I will provide the cite when I am back in my office.

Think maybe "temporary absence" for short "jail time"

Lion (talk|edits) said:

8 February 2008
It's not "5+ months" as a student, it's any part of five months. So, January 30 to May 1 counts or August 31 to December 1 or June and then September to December or...

Szptax (talk|edits) said:

8 February 2008
Lion - yes, I know - he wasn't.

RoyDaleOne (talk|edits) said:

8 February 2008
Rowe v. Commissioner, 128 T.C. No. 3

Maxflash5 (talk|edits) said:

9 May 2008
Hi,

I stumbled onto this site while searching for an answer...pardon me if this is only for tax professionals. Maybe you can help me? My son is 28 and permanently 100% disabled. He receives social security and Veterans disability benefits. He lives with me for 3 years now. I am his conservator. He does not file taxes. This year I was told that I could claim him as a qualifying cajoled for the earned income credit. I did this but did not claim him as a dependent because he has unearned income. Now I am wondering if he should have filed in order to get his stimulus rebate??? Can he file even though I used him for the credit?

Riley2 (talk|edits) said:

9 May 2008
You should have hired a tax professional. You cannot elect out of claiming your son as a dependent if he otherwise qualifies.

Not sure that your son is really a qualifying child if he is providing over one-half of his own support (Social Security and VA benefits).

If your son was a qualifying individual for earned income credit purposes, then he cannot qualify for the Stimulus Rebate.

Cotopop (talk|edits) said:

10 May 2008
You should hire a tax professional as you have potentially large refund claims for the 3 prior years assuming the facts have not changeed materially in regard to your disabled son . There are substantial facts and circumstances which must be determined including how much he made in social security and veterans benefits, what did he do with the money ,how much do you make ,is care provided for your disabled son and who pays it etc. etc .

The biggest issue to overcome for the dependency exemption (which leads to the Earned Income Credit) is to determine if your qualifying child did not provide over 1/2 of his support. There are IRS worksheets available which can quantify this calculation. Presumably you are either paying for the rent or mortgage payment and therfore you can inpute fair market rental value in the support calculation which will be beneficial. I have seen situations where an individual made $15 to 20 K but did not provide for more than half the support which leads to the dependency exemption for the parent.

If you can claim him as a dependent then you will also be able to claim head of household filing status which will provide additional tax breaks. Good luck

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