Discussion:No can read?
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Death&Taxes (talk|edits) said: | 2 November 2007 |
| Has it been two to three weeks now since Tim changed the entryway to asking a question? What does everyone think? Is it just me who think that there are some people out there who can't comprende Ingles or am I being a churl? Some may claim they only attached their questions to the tail of discussions that were already a mile long, but is that what we were aiming for? What do you think?
I wasn't totally in favor of it when it was done, but I do believe once a stop sign is in place, people shouldn't drive through it. | |
| 2 November 2007 | |
| I've been out of the loop for a while. What changed, besides the newly created difficulty to post a new thread?
Mike G., EA | |
| 3 November 2007 | |
| It is hard to tell if the traffic has slowed down because it isn't tax season, BUT we are still getting several questions from non-professionals and do-it-yourselfers. "My husband formed an S Corp/LLC/Real Estate Flip/kitty drop off box" | |
| November 3, 2007 | |
| And that's ok, again. Some folks will crash the barricades. You wanted to keep most of them out, and you likely have. | |
| 3 November 2007 | |
| I just want to say that some of the people who are asking the same question appended to another question are the ones that are seeking help. Yeah, you will give away free advice to those who can't tell their nose from their tail, but they want the easy way out or they would hire someone to help them.
AGAIN and always...I state that if you don't want to answer it, then don't. Why read it and respond if you think it is not worth responding to? Yes, you can point them to the search on the screen and that is responding. If you want to answer, then answer, if not...then simply do not respond. The question may be coming from someone who is trying to find the right avenue to ask....could be just free advice and will then take it on their own...either way you have helped another person... AGAIN OFF MY SOAPBOX | |
Death&Taxes (talk|edits) said: | 3 November 2007 |
| Don't get me wrong. I noted above "I wasn't totally in favor of it when it was done, but I do believe once a stop sign is in place, people shouldn't drive through it," so why have discussions to find what the members want. Tim must have felt that enough people wanted a change that he spent time trying to satisfy that clamor. Why did we expend so much passion on the issue if anyone can ignore our instructions? It's not an issue of what to do, but rather should we even waste our time talking about it come January? | |
| 3 November 2007 | |
| I'll have you all know that a couple of weeks ago I got a private e-mail from Tim, asking me "what my opinion is"(as if he didn't already know) on how to change this board to improve it.
And I very frankly told him exactly what I expressed publicly on this board. Since he wrote to me privately, I cannot publicly disclose certain facts he did give me. He's apparently content that he's put the change in regarding professional status checkoff only on the Tax forum. He doesn't wish to do it to the Accounting Forum. I also informed him of my belief that since Intuit has attempted to satify both the public as well as the tax professionals simultaneously (since they've produced different products) it's difficult accomplish both parties simultaneously. So, unfortunately, I don't see things changing on this board. | |
| 4 November 2007 | |
| I DO agree with you Uncle. Intuit is serving all aspects of the accounting and taxation industry; you don't need an accountant if you use TurboTax and if you have an accountant, then you can also use our software to prepare professional taxes.
Much like Microsoft, Google, EBay and others, the developers obviously are intelligent and able to market to the entire world...great!! But I still believe that the DIY person who is using TurboTax and has a question comes here for advice; they may then seem to be over their heads and will take the idea to go to a professional to get their taxes or accounting done. So if Intuit sends a DIY our way and we can then respond kindly by telling them they really need to look for professional help, then perhaps we have done a service. If we don't like the way it is open to the public, then we can choose not be a member any longer or we can simply leave the question posed alone. To ostracize the DIY person is not helping anyone or anything...we will then have a forum only for professionals. If that is what everyone wants, then I am certain Intuit can have a fee based system so that only professionals will need apply. I like it the way it is myself. It is a free service and both pros and DIY alike can benefit.... Just my two cents worth...it is Colts/Patriots today!!! hehe | |
| November 5, 2007 | |
| Exactly. I tire of this. It isn't our site. If you don't like how it's run by those who PAY for it, go start your own site. | |
| 5 November 2007 | |
| TaxAlmanac
The free online tax research resource and community for tax professionals. Now- isn't that a lot of crap? We practitioners who purchase Intuit's products-whether it be Proseries, Lacerte, or Quickbooks - or a combination of those -PAY FOR THIS SITE | |
Death&Taxes (talk|edits) said: | 5 November 2007 |
| And it is not just the DIY people....take a stroll through recent "John Doe" questions and see how many begin "One of my clients" or "I have a client." This means that the poser read the part about being a professional, clicked that button and came to the question page.....then totally ignored the section that reads STEP 2 - TELL US WHO YOU ARE. This is a simple lack of courtesy; if they cannot figure out how to work the profile page, could they not lead their question with "I am a CPA in Oklahoma with twelve years experience. I have a client who....?"
Note that I am being nice in that I am giving John Doe credit for searching our database, which is Step One before asking a question. If 'professionals' ignore our instructions, why shouldn't DIYs? btw: any chance that Aunty Em is Uncle Sam's spouse, or is she on this board looking for Dorothy? | |
| 6 November 2007 | |
| I recently joined the community and I paused at the question asking if I was a professional. I finally figured I fit under the "etc." because a lot of my work involves doing tax work for the company I work for and helping the company's clients with their accounting packages (which almost always involves some tax issues). I am not a CPA and I work with other CPAs on stuff that goes beyond my capabilities.
If the goal is to keep people out who aren't trained tax preparation professionals, you should probably make the question a little more exclusive and even consider a closed forum. Obviously this wouldn't be advantageous to me, but I can understand if people want to know they are only interacting with people who are trained in tax matters. | |
| 6 November 2007 | |
| One or two folks here are rotten at answering questions even when they are right, too puckered up in the bee-hind to ever ask anything and generally no fun at all.
Best thing would be a private forum, not everybody can see it. Could be invite only, with a couple of the biggest whiners as charter members in charge of sending out the signal to the moderator on who to let in and who to keep out. Someplace where the fussy old ladies can go sit and watch and gossip and complain. | |
Death&Taxes (talk|edits) said: | 6 November 2007 |
| Troupe: you told us who you are. I doubt anyone will 'blackball' you. | |
| 6 November 2007 | |
| Its true that users of Intuit products indirectly pay for this site, but if Tim shut the whole thing down tomorrow I doubt Intuit would drop their prices. You also have to factor in that the vast majority of Quickbooks users are not accountants, and that many if not most DIYs use the personal version of TurboTax. Consequently, those people are subsidizing this site as well.
I use alot of free internet services such as message boards on various topics (taxation, soccer officiating, photography) and email (yahoo, hotmail). There are a few drawbacks to all of those but the bottom line is I don't have to pay to use them so I don't care about some pop-up ads or some spam email. Since I don't have to pay a subscription fee to use taxalmanac or provide my Intuit products serial numbers to get in I don't care about some DIYs asking questions. They are simply very easy to ignore if I don't want to answer. This is a very good website, and Tim works very hard to keep it that way. Minor drawbacks should not be blown up into major controversies. | |
Wkstaxprep (talk|edits) said: | 6 November 2007 |
| soccer officiating message board? wow, now that's dedication. i just found the second soccer fanatic who lives in the u.s.a. (besides myself) lol :)
i enjoy answering questions if i know the answer. it's a good feeling and in the long run only keeps us sharp on our skills. plus, we have all been the beneficiaries of someone helping us with no strings attached so why not give back? in the end, good deeds will come back our way in return. | |
| 6 November 2007 | |
| According to Taxref Turbotax users are subsidizing this site.
Yes-In part I'll agree with that. But also, there's a site for Turbotax users: http://support.turbotax.intuit.com/cgi-bin/turbotax.cfg/php/enduser/home.php?ip_seltab=9&p_sid=sLL8I3Qi Because we as tax professionals use Intuit products, aren't we also subsidizing Turbotax's site also? | |
| 6 November 2007 | |
| BAHHH HUMBUG!!! I still think that we are people here....flesh and blood individuals. I hope never and I mean NEVER to turn a person away who needs my help...pay or not, they need help and if they are brass B**ls enough, then I will help them..... | |
| 7 November 2007 | |
| I don't use any Intuit products. I'm here on your dime, Sam.
Thanks! | |
| 7 November 2007 | |
| I agree with Sandy. Don't answer if you don't want to. Unfortunately, the more that non-tax items are discussed (such as filling in or not filling in your profile -- see [Home office for C Corps]), the less useful this forum becomes. With so much clutter in the home office discussion, it was difficult to tell if anyone was providing any useful tax advice. Another pet peeve I have is simply telling posters to use the search bar. This provides no useful tax advice. It simply provides clutter for future users that do use the search bar and land on that discussion. | |
| 8 November 2007 | |
| Im concluded that OCD types are trying to run this show. Hissy fits and hysteria all over the place over missing profiles and no searching and lazy schoolkids and offtheshelfers shootin theyselves in the foot. Like watchin Monk on TV around here. | |
| 8 November 2007 | |
| Hey we can't have everything JR!!!! hehehehehe
If I was an OCD profiler I would first: 1-Make sure the name was spelled correctly with correct punctuation 2-Make sure that someone used wrap text so that the profile was justified 3-Make sure that all profiles used the same fonts, resolution and justification so that other OCDer's (is that a word?) could relate. 4-And since I have OCD and my favorite number is 4, I have to make sure to have a #4 and not have anything else useful to say...hehehehehe | |


