Discussion:Clients - the ones who ask for referrals

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Floridacpa (talk|edits) said:

October 23, 2009
One thing I can't stand is when I talk to a potential client, and they see me as someone with a reservoir of business connections and ask if I can get them business. I tell them if someone asks for a service I do give referrals.

Somehow they think I am going to market their services, absolutely not!

I am at the point where if they even ask I may just tell them I can't accept them as a client. I'm in business to give quality accounting and tax services, not to provide a marketing network.

Anyone else have this pet peeve?

Wonder Woman USA (talk|edits) said:

24 October 2009
I've never been asked, by a potential or current client, about referrals. In my practice, the people who usually ask for those are stockbrokers and mortgage brokers... and I don't pass on any names of professionals who I do not know well enough to trust them with my clients.

My clients are lawyers, yoga teachers, animation artists, personnel specialists, etc. If a client needs a referral to one of these, I'm happy to pass on a name or two, though I will not say "oh, I have a client who does that."

Floridacpa (talk|edits) said:

October 26, 2009
I was speaking with a potential client. Computer programming start up. First the guy tries to barter - I say no. They he bashes my website, I put up with it. Then I tell him my fees, he is ok with them. Then he comments since I deal with a lot of small businesses he would think I could help get him business.

I said if anyone asks for a programmer/web development I could refer them to you.

Guy actually had the idea I would market his services or some nonsense if he became a client. Real young obviously geeky computer guy. Wouldn't be a bad client because I could teach him how to do things in the proper way, and everything would be smooth. But on the other hand I just don't feel like putting up with naivety. Do I actually need to sit the guy down and explain the obvious?

The best clients for me are those that have used an accountant, and are unhappy with the amount they are paying or the service received. They absolutely appreciate me. Startups - not much interest in.

FloridaTaxes (talk|edits) said:

26 October 2009
Wow. I have never had that happen. I have a client that's an S-Corp with a graphic designer and a web developer, and I have referred some business to them but they never asked for it. I also have an insurance agent I referred some business to, but once again, it was never asked for. This works out best in my opinion because they value the referral more and both of them have referred clients to me, unsolicited.

I'm not a huge fan of start-ups either, but the main problem I have with the businesses that switch from another accountant is that they sometimes come with bad habits. I have one that constantly buys regular clothing with his business account, groceries, home repairs, all his utilities etc and says his old accountant allowed him to deduct all of that because he uses everything he has (cards, house, boats, etc) in the business. I have another one whose old accountant was fully depreciating his personal vehicle on the company's books even though only 40% of the mileage is for business.

BrockEA (talk|edits) said:

26 October 2009
I don't know....I don't have a problem asking them for referrals to their friends, family, and colleagues.


I may have a different take on the situation but I consider my clients and myself to be in the same boat...all looking for a new sale. I consider it a bonus for being my client and if I can happen to get them some business, it will probably help keep them making money and build some real loyalty to me.


I do, however, work with a lot of startups so they are hustling like I am.


Michael

PeteEA (talk|edits) said:

26 October 2009
If my client can increase their business then that's only good for me. I pass on referrals when I trust the client and I know someone who could use their service.

That said, I am not an extension of my client's sales force and I tell them that. If I pass on a referral it is up to them to earn the prospect's trust and close the sale.

The best referral relationships I have are the ones where there is mutual trust between myself and the other party, and there is no pressure to make referrals one way or the other.

Kevinh5 (talk|edits) said:

26 October 2009
I give referrals if someone expresses that they are looking for something.


What I hate, though, is when a client asks if I have any wealthy investor clients who might like to help finance the requestor's latest endeavor. I politely say that I will keep them in mind and pass their contact info on if I come across such a person. In 21 years I have yet to come across a financial angel.

Floridacpa (talk|edits) said:

October 26, 2009
PeteEA

"I am not an extension of my client's sales force and I tell them that"

Exactly, now how to get it across without seeming heartless!

PeteEA (talk|edits) said:

26 October 2009
Assuming I have a honest and open relationship with my client, I don't have a problem telling them this. I also say that it works both ways- if my client refers a prospect to me then it's up to me to earn the prospect's trust.

I've only ever had one negative reaction to this approach: my client was a multi level marketer and looking to recruit new members into his network. He wanted me to show my other clients his promotional DVD. When I refused, he got upset and needless to say we aren't working together any more.

I should have also mentioned I don't pay for incoming referrals and don't expect to get paid for referrals I give (small gifts of appreciation excepted).

Waynecpa (talk|edits) said:

26 October 2009
I think the key is to not refer someone to another business unless you have a trust built up with that business. For example, if I have a new tax client that expresses a need for an attorney, I am comfortable with giving them a card of an attorney that I know will do a good job for them. My reputation is somewhat on the line - if I just give out a name of someone I know to them and the relationship doesn't go well, my reputation will go down in my client's eyes.

Quite often I will have a start-up business stop by or set up an appointment with me in an attempt to tie into my client base. I'm polite, but more often than not nothing happens further since I do not have confidence my clients would be better off by the referral.

CrowJD (talk|edits) said:

26 October 2009
I agree totally. Most businesses that stay in business know how to finish a job. The i's and t's are dotted and crossed before the bill goes out. So, it's not enough that this fellow may be the best computer guy around, or whatever, the fact is he has to have a little experience in business to understand what customer service is all about (if they ever learn).

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