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FloridaTaxes (talk|edits) said:

30 October 2009
I will be done with the SEE exam in a few weeks and want to go straight into studying for the CPA exam, so I can take all 4 parts before the new exam comes out in 2011. I am debating whether to start with BEC or REG. I think REG might be good because a lot of it is taxation, and all the studying I did for SEE might help. However, I have heard BEC is generally the easiest part to pass. I looked at the content and since the last 2 years I have been working as a financial analyst doing budgeting, reporting, analysis, etc for a large company I think I will be familiar with a lot of the concepts already. I plan to study from the end of November-end of January and take it the first week of February, right before tax season gets in full mode for me. I have the Becker course. Any advice would be appreciated. Since my study time will be somewhat short for the first section, I do not want to take either of the other two sections.

FloridaTaxes (talk|edits) said:

30 October 2009
I mean no Audit or FAR for my first test. Thanks.

VanjaCPA (talk|edits) said:

30 October 2009
This is really up to you and I don't think there is any particual order that these exams should be taken in.

I did REG, FAR, BEC, AUD. I personally did REG first because tax is my favorite and actually enjoying it. I decided to go with FAR next because the book was huge and I thought if I get it out of the way, I'd feel good with BEC and AUD left. I'm glad I didn't leave FAR for last because I was exhausted by the time I was studying for AUD. I just wanted it to be over.

I also used Becker and I think it helped a lot. I would watch the lectures, then do all the multiple choice questions, and then re-do the ones I missed until I got them all right at least once. I did some of the simulations, but some I just read the answers to understand how they came up with them. In my opinion, doing every single simulation is a waste of time. For bigger chapters, I found that it's easy to watch one part of the lecture, do the multiple choice, then move on to the next. Doing this helped me remember the material better. Some lectures are over 4 hours long and if I watch the whole thing in one sitting, I would lose focus by the time it was over and would forget half of the things that were said.

I passed all four sections on the first try.

Good luck!

VanjaCPA (talk|edits) said:

30 October 2009
We need a spell check on this site. Sorry about my misspellings. :)

FloridaTaxes (talk|edits) said:

30 October 2009
Mu current thinking is to do BEC, AUD, REG, FAR. This way I feel like I'm scattering between the shorter and the longer tests. In addition, there is speculation that they might add a simulation to BEC soon and I would like to take it before that happens. I was a Becker campus rep in college and thankfully got the course for free. I chose the self-study option. Did you use the study cards or cram package they have? I can purchase those at a discount and was wondering if they're worth it. Thanks for the information.

VanjaCPA (talk|edits) said:

30 October 2009
I was lucky enough to have the firm I was working for at the time pay for the Becker materials. I got it all, the self study course, flash cards and the final review. I never used the flash cards. I used the final review for FAR, but I don't think it helped that much. I honestly don't think any of the extras are worth it. The review course itself has enough material to help you pass the exam.

Yeah, I'd definitely take BEC before they add the simulations. Again, it's up to you but I wouldn’t want to be studying for FAR last, it just feels like you'll never get to the end of the book and if it's your last one you may be worn out. Just my opinion. Maybe BEC, FAR, AUD, REG would be a better option. I'm sure in the end you'll take them in order you feel comfortable with regardless what others tell you. I'm the same way. I'll take everyone’s suggestions and then go with my original decision in the end. :)

FloridaTaxes (talk|edits) said:

30 October 2009
I've heard about the nightmares FAR has caused for people and I guess my instincts of procrastination tell me to leave it for last, even though I know I probably shouldn't:)

Cpa297 (talk|edits) said:

30 October 2009
I used to worry about FAR too. But according to me - AUD is the most tricky. FAR definitely has the most material to go through but AUD was the most difficult - that is one part everyone feels most confident because you feel you deal with the subject everyday at work but for some reason the questions are always tricky. I did BEC, AUD, FAR and REG. I checked Gleim, Wiley and Becker - Becker worked the best for me. Good luck!

Cpa297 (talk|edits) said:

30 October 2009
Study cards were not very helpful to me but I would recommend buying their Final review course to practice additional questions.

NoVATaxes (talk|edits) said:

30 October 2009
I did FAR, AUD, REG, and BEC. I'm glad I did FAR first because I was fresh and motivated. AUD was a lot of repetitive drills. REG's law sections were mind-numbing. By the time I got to BEC (10 months later) I was tired of studying and no longer cared whether I passed. To paraphrase something I read a long time ago in a galaxy far far away, FAR is difficult because it's a mile wide and an inch deep; AUD is difficult because the questions and answers are worded to cast doubt on everything you think you know; REG is difficult because of the time crunch; BEC is difficult because a lot of the questions are out in left field.

I used Gleim to pass all four sections on the first sitting.

Fort Wayne CPA (talk|edits) said:

30 October 2009
I took the exam in 2006.

I think you should take BEC first because it seems to be the easiest for most people. That being said there is nothing wrong with taking REG first if you are comfortable with REG.

I used Gleim and I did not pay for the simulations.

I learned several things:

    You should develop a study structure and stick to it.
    Different people study different amounts.  I passed 3 of the 4 on the first try with an average score of 82.  The one I  
    failed was, drumroll please, REG.  I got a 73...  I totally blew the simulation AND the research question.  I also ran out 
    time and I NEVER run out of time.  I had also done taxes for THREE tax seasons and did not study as much since I figured 
    REG would be easy for me.  I studied for a total of SIX hours before the second sitting for REG and passed it with a 78...
    Lesson learned was practice at least a few simulations and research questions.
    I am a fairly "book smart" person and I take exams relatively well.  That said I studied 60 hours for BEC, 80 hours for REG, 
    100 hours for AUD, and 120 hours for FAR...
    My study technique was to study the multiple choice questions over and over...

Mike

AAS2007 (talk|edits) said:

30 October 2009
I am currently in the process of taking my exam. Passed BEC and REG the first time, tripped up on AUD and FAR (twice). AUD is really tricky and FAR is a mile wide and an inch deep. Poor study habits also contributed to my failures. I agree with Mr. Wayne - do the questions over and over and over and over. Good luck with your journey. There is a website that fellow CPA takers chat about the exam, really good and gives great pointers - it's the forum on cpanet.com.

Chukeg (talk|edits) said:

30 October 2009
I took all four parts in July and August. Talk about a nightmare. I was sick of it by the time I was done, but hey, it's done, and that makes it all worth it.

I took BEC, REG, AUD, and finished up with FAR. BEC and AUD felt much, much easier than REG and FAR, and yet my REG and FAR scores (94 and 96) were higher than BEC and AUD (89 and 89). Go figure. Actually, I left REG feeling like I had a 50/50 chance of even passing, and I was so sick of studying by the time I got to FAR that I hardly even did anything for half of the three weeks I had left before the test.

I used Becker and supplemented with Gleim's books and multiple-choice software. I found the Becker flashcards useful at times, such as the last couple of days before taking a test, but they were never a significant part of my study strategy. Never used final review, either. Typically, I worked through the Becker lecture, worked the MC questions, reviewed the topic in the Gleim guide, and then pretty much used the Gleim software to study each subject area in depth. A few days before a test I would do all my Gleim MC question reviews in an approximate test environment--usually 30 random questions within 35 minutes, or however long I wanted to spend on a testlet at the testing center itself. I'd also run through the Becker practice exams, paying special attention to the practice sims. (I also found my old auditing textbook useful for filling in the gaps.)

Develop a strategy that WORKS FOR YOU and stick to it. Don't be afraid to tweak it if necessary, but the keys to success are commitment and perseverance, not innate intelligence or test-taking abilities--though those help. You might also want to check out the CPAnet Forum if you haven't already: http://www.cpanet.com/cpa_forum/default.asp. Look down under "The CPA Exam." Lots of good info that helps you understand the exam better and prepare yourself mentally for the actual event.

Ksnoopytax (talk|edits) said:

30 October 2009
I passed the exam about 6 months ago. I would take first whatever you think you will pass. That will give you momentum and now you will be invested in completing the rest of the exam and try even harder. I took regulation first because I most familiar in tax. BEC isn't hard if you are fresh out of school and know the concepts. I was not so I found it slightly harder. Auditing is hard if you have never done an audit, but was easy for me because I have experience auditing which is all the difference in the world. I saved FAR for last because it is much like BEC where if you are out of school for awhile, it becomes exponentially more difficult but I was already invested because I passed the first three parts and studied hard to pass it.

I used Becker also. Develop a strategy to take the exams based on your strengths. Do TONS and TONS of multiple choice problems and write your own notecards.

NMexEA (talk|edits) said:

30 October 2009
General question:

In order to pass the CPA exam, I understand that the candidate must achieve passing scores on all four parts within an 18 month period. Once you do so, though, is there any time limit on completing the necessary experience for licensing? Or does the passed CPA exam have a limited shelf life?

NoVATaxes (talk|edits) said:

30 October 2009
That depends on your State Board of Accountancy. For example, in VA, your passing scores are valid as long as you have satisfied the annual CPE requirements. I believe the experience verification has to be signed by a CPA license holder.

I agree with all the comments about drilling with multiple choice problems as much as you can.

FloridaTaxes (talk|edits) said:

30 October 2009
Thanks for the information on that other forum, I will take a look at it. I think BEC will be first, but I'll have to think some more about the next one. Now if only the state would hurry up so I can schedule my test...

Jnl stl (talk|edits) said:

31 October 2009
I passed in February and here's what I suggest.

1) Take BEC first, FAR second, REG third & AUD last; I like BEC first because right out of the gate all you have to do is multiple choice - no sims, no research. Once you get momentum do AUD or FAR next, whichever is the hardest for you. I say that because, my philosophy is to put the worst behind you, and even if you get close to the 18 month conditioning, you may just loose BEC, which is a lot easier than FAR.

Then do REG next because even though it may be next august before you take it, from what I read from your other posts on this board you got enough in you to pass it with minimal studying - especially with the SEE under your belt. I studied probably 30 hours for REG, didn't even get to the final simulation and got a 78. But as we'll all know everyone is different.

2) If you ever need motivation, go to another71.com, their forums are active with enough 20 somethings too keep you feeling young. 3) Never get down on yourself regarding the Simulations, they only grade 1 of 2, as the other is for testing purposes only. 4) if you don't have experience auditing, don't fret, just MEMORIZE the crap out of it. I still to this day can rattle off a unqualified, qualified, etc opinions and I took it over a year ago. 5) Remember all you have to do is get a 75, don't over study. Once you get BEC out of the way you'll know what I mean. 6) Shoot for a perfect score of 300 (4 75's). The test is a mile wide but a inch deep. Remember that. You don't need to be an expert in everything.

FloridaTaxes (talk|edits) said:

31 October 2009
Thanks for the suggestions. I do not have any Audit experience at all, but like you said I have had others tell me good memorization skills can help with that. I thought about taking either AUD or FAR second, but what worries me a little is that I will study a little during tax season for whichever part I take second, and then for 5-6 weeks after tax season and that's it. I want to take it before the second testing window ends. I know for sure I will have much more time to devote to studying for the third and fourth part I take. While I think it will be a very exhausting 5-6 months, I am almost thinking I should leave FAR and AUD for last to ensure I study enough to pass them on the first try. I have a friend from college that took FAR shortly after tax season, stressed out the whole time because she felt she wasn't studying enough, and ended up getting a 68 on it. Not that I think they're a piece of cake, but I would think I should take BEC and REG during the times I will have less study time available.

Jnl stl (talk|edits) said:

1 November 2009
You're reasoning makes sense. Your BEC and REG time-frame is good. I love motivation and you'll have it after passing those two back to back. No problem. Gear up for a ride with FAR and AUD. As one of the previous posters said do so many multiple choice that your mouse wears out from clicking it so much.

I used CPAexcel.com for AUD & FAR and they are good enough (and loads cheaper). I must admit though that Becker's BEC with Peter Olinto was great, his video series kept me awake as opposed to a couple of the CPAExcel instructors. I just couldn't do Becker for all of them, I'm just too cheap. For REG, I bought an outdated Kaplan course and passed.

Regardless, I have faith in you that you'll pass. It really just comes down when.

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